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Category creation

Hi,

I have noticed that a number of catagories have been created, but as someone who has had a career in IT, it concerns me that the overall caegory structure is not defined. From my experience in IT design, one should adopt a top-down design, in this case first create the root category (called Category:CommonsRoot in Wikimedia Commons), then create sub-categories that are hooked onto that caetegory and build the category tree in that way. From my casual observation of progress to date, it appears that you are creating the bottom layer of catgories and the working upwards. Martinvl (talk) 21:51, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi Martinvl, thanks for your input, User:Doc James would cover this topic best--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:12, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

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Category creation

Hi,

I have noticed that a number of catagories have been created, but as someone who has had a career in IT, it concerns me that the overall caegory structure is not defined. From my experience in IT design, one should adopt a top-down design, in this case first create the root category (called Category:CommonsRoot in Wikimedia Commons), then create sub-categories that are hooked onto that caetegory and build the category tree in that way. From my casual observation of progress to date, it appears that you are creating the bottom layer of catgories and the working upwards. Martinvl (talk) 21:51, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

I generally agree, and for better or worse, the model has been to just let it run willy-nilly and accept that at any given time, some percentage of the categories will be malformed or empty or lead nowhere, but that the process will just work itself out over time. I also don't see any pathway to creating a centralized hierarchy and ontology for what could in principle be any topic. Koavf (talk) 11:15, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

(moved from front page to here)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 23:39, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Yah we do not really have anyone leading the effort to appropriately categorize things here yet. If your interested in helping would appreciate it. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:45, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

LUA error code

I tried uploading my first file into NC Commons using the "Upload File" facility and got am error message "Lua error in Module:DateI18n at line 113: attempt to index field 'data' (a nil value)". I notice that other users have also had this error. What can be done to cortect for it? I have loaded hundreds of files into COmmons without any problems. Martinvl (talk) 18:43, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

User:Martinvl We need to add the translation extension. I have requested this and we are waiting for it to be done. Once it is added that "Lua error" will go away. We are still building here.
We are also trying to get Wikidata integration functional, which is turning out to be exceedingly difficult and slow. But these are mostly cosmetic things and do not appear when the images are reused.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
@User:Doc James Thank you. Martinvl (talk) 21:55, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Once the correction has been installed, will the images concerned pick up the code that was actually loaded and correct themselves (for example, the description fields which currently do not appear), or will they need to be reloaded? Martinvl (talk) 14:43, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi,Martinvl (I just edit), however from my understanding they'll 'correct themselves'--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 23:12, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
@User:Ozzie10aaaa Thank you. I have reread the bit in Wikipedia about translclusion and substitution and I think that everything is now clear. Martinvl (talk) 22:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Special:MediaStatistics

Special:MediaStatistics (linked from the sidebar as "Stats") gives a 503 for me. It probably shouldn't. --Base (talk) 18:20, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

User:Base thanks, software was just getting updated so should work now for you. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:46, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Further errors

@User:Doc James: Thank you for sorting out the errors in Template:Information.

I notice however there are still errors in

  • Template:Description
  • Template:Cite web
  • Template:Reflist.
  • In addition inter-wiki links do not appear to work. I checked this by pasting :en:International_Bureau_of_Weights_and_Measures into the search box in both Commons and NC Commons. Commons took me to the correct page in Wikipedia, but NC Commons did not.

The impact of all of these can be seen here. Martinvl (talk) 13:26, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm certain Doc James is on it, some things (technical) simply take time, Ozzie--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 21:52, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi,
Thank you for correcting the way in which "template:information" adds a colon safter the language in the description field. However there are still a number of errors that need correction:
  • "template:cite ref" does not work
  • "tempate:reflist" does not work
  • Wikilinks such as My favourite city (created by "[[:en:Amsterdam|My favourite city]]" do not work.
Martinvl (talk) 17:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
User:Martinvl thanks for raising these. Not sure why the ping not working here. Yah still lots of stuff to fix. Some of which I am not sure how to do.
Are are working to solve the "Lua error in Module:Autotranslate at line 77" issue. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:10, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
If you have ideas on how to fix issues let me know. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Interwiki links

(ticket) I think the issue here has to do with this interwiki data. It is very different on MDWiki[1] than NC Commons[2]. Which is different than Commons.[3] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Reference tags

(ticket) These do not work as we are missing this extension on NC Commons https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite

Will ask to have it installed. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Pings

(ticket) I wonder if this is not working as we are missing Echo https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Echo Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:38, 17 May 2024 (UTC)